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    Post  PappaLove on Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:06 pm

    Hi/Hello,

    I'm Steve and I used to be a 'Brit but my job relocated me to Tampa, Florida in 1989. In the contents of my relocation-move container shipment was a "basket-case" Francis Barnett Falcon that I had then recently acquired with the intention of restoring it.

    Well 30 years have slipped by and I find myself recently retired with a little time on my hands and wanting to make a start on the restoration of my 'FannyB. First step, join the FBOC, check! Next step, find out exactly what model and year the bike is, so I can get some documentation and track down the missing parts.

    I have the original brown UK Registration Book for my Francis Barnett which is document A035236. It lists the original Registration Mark as “WRB 806”, although the “B” could be a “D” as the letter’s upper-loop is tiny. This “logbook” lists it as a Model “Falcon 62” with Frame Number “VTMT3217” and with engine number 3758 of rating “197cc”, original colour “black” and Date of Original Registration of ”1-January 1955” with a corresponding series of annual Road Tax payments.

    However, when I sanded the remaining paint from the side of the headstock to reveal the frame number, the following appears from the stamping “VTM732178C”. The "V" prior to the "TM" seems to have been stamped by a screwdriver type tool and is I think not original. There is no "VTM" in either the Roy Bacon book “Villiers Singles and Twins” nor online at
    https://cybermotorcycle.com/marques/francis-barnett/francis-barnett-serial-numbers.htm
    The "TM" prefix without the leading “V” would make it a 1953 model 197 54?
    It's engine type should be a Villiers 6E (3 speed) of serial number prefix 207A?

    Any help to identify or verify the correct year and model would be appreciated!

    It is my plan to use the bike to contest the AHRMA (American Historic Racing Motorcycle Association) national series of vintage trials in their "lightweight rigid" class. I used to do a bit of pre '65 trials in the UK, so that's my plan for retirement-fitness.

    Feel free to say "hi" or pass-on any advice or tips.

    Steve Loveridge

    PS. My daughter's sorority sisters from her US university coined the nickname "Papa Love" from my last name which is actually "Loveridge". As a "pimp name" the nickname and hence my FBOC Forum Handle have stuck.
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    Post  fulmar88 on Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:19 am


    Hi Steve,
    Can't help with much but can comfirm the likely registration. WRB 806 issued in Derbyshire starting in 1954. WRD 806 was issued in Reading in 1960 so the former seems likely to be correct. Once the forum wakes up I'm sure there will be help come along. Your engine number would usually have the format 123X-1234 and is usually stamped across the crankcase halves at one of the frame mounting points if it's not on a plate on the chaincase side. I would expect your frame number to only have five numbers so should be two, three or four letters followed by five numbers with perhaps a final letter (usually a colour code) so eg ABCD12345A.

    regards,
    Steve.
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    Post  piston 197 on Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:25 pm

    I have already emailed Steve and we think we have it sorted it appears to be 1954, trials 62 registered in Derbyshire on January the first 1955, would have expected it to be a UTM number, the trials model was available special order in 1955, though not listed, it was also available in a swing arm frame supplied as a Model 72 swing arm scrambler in trials trim with option of lights again not catalogued.
    I have one new old stock model 62 rigid chainguard left if you are missing one, as it tended to be one of the parts that got "lost"
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    Post  PappaLove on Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:58 pm

    Yes please I would like the NOS chain guard.
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    Post  piston 197 on Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:59 pm

    I will send you a p.m. you may not be able to reply to it until you have 5 posts, so i will send you my Email address
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    Post  stuart elkes on Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:44 pm

    Amal 375/37 fitted to 15t engine starts first kick will only rev no tick over stops after about 30 seconds any ideas what the problem is? Stuart Elkes
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    Post  piston 197 on Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:01 pm

    Pilot circuit blocked ? take out pilot jet and blow through both the jet and the body housing, there is a small hole in the mouth of the carb, about 3/8" in from the flange, make sure this is clear ?
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    Post  stuart elkes on Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:32 am

    Thanks JH I will take the carb off strip and clean it.

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