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    Post  t100c on Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:14 am

    Have just purchased a 1956 falcon that my late father bought brand new in 1956 when I was only 4 years old, have got the original log book with it with my fathers name in it. I am completely new to barnetts so will be asking plenty of questions. The engine is a 197 with a 3 speed gearbox, bike needs a recomission as although it has been stored inside it has not been run for at least 30 years any advice gratefully received
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    Post  piston 197 on Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:26 am

    If it is a 1956 Falcon ( made from August 55 to July 56) it will have a frame No beginning WM and be a Falcon 74, it could be a 1956 made 1957 Model and then will have a YM frame number and still be a Falcon 74, the engine should be a 197cc Villiers 8E and have an engine No beginning 070B
    I have recently just started up a 1956 model Falcon 74 which had stood since 1972, it took very little other than cleaning the points and putting fresh petrol into the carburettor, it is surprising how untouched machines can be made to run with little effort. The real work will be cleaning out the fuel tank, petrol tap etc which is well gummed up.
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    Post  t100c on Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:38 am

    Thanks for the reply to my introduction post I have looked oil the old log book frame No does start with WM and engine No 171B which makes it a 1956. Just waiting for a parts/hand book plus a new HT lead assembly. Apart from Villiers spares is there anyone else doing spares ? thanks in advance T100c
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    Post  piston 197 on Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:44 am

    If it is a 171B then it is a coding i do not recognise ? although 071B was the same engine as the 070B, but was fitted with the optional 4 speed Albion gearbox, if you have a 4 speed box the kick start is sleeved up the inside of the gearchange so looks to be on the same shaft, the 3 speed gearbox has 2 seperate shafts approx 2" apart .

    Villiers services are the go-to place for engine spares, although cottonvillierstrials is also useful for some mostly secondhand bits
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    Post  John Wakefield on Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:19 am

    piston 197 wrote:If it is a 171B then it is a coding i do not recognise ? although 071B was the same engine as the 070B, but was fitted with the optional 4 speed Albion gearbox, if you have a 4 speed box the kick start is sleeved up the inside of the gearchange so looks to be on the same shaft, the 3 speed gearbox has 2 seperate shafts approx 2" apart .

    Villiers services are the go-to place for engine spares, although cottonvillierstrials is also useful for some mostly secondhand bits
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    There is a 170B listed as an 8E fitted to a Stanley Harper Scootermobile. The list continues with 173B a 6F fitted to an Excelsior Consort. So there probably was a 171B and 172B (maybe 8E Scootermobile engines)
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    Post  piston 197 on Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:29 am

    Never said there was not a 171B, just pointed out it was not in any list i have access to, but there was a 071B which was a 4 speed 8E fitted to the Falcon 74, same bike as the original poster was referring to, so possibly and error on document and worth checking actual engine No.
    There are many blanks in the spec numbers lists, i have added some in my personal lists i.e. 123B which was a special 172cc engine made for the ISDT Barnetts which involved using a 150cc crank in 197cc cases and a special cast barrel which used a 59mm bore but the length and porting of the 147cc engine, it was also fitted with a 1H head and special manifold to take an Amal 276 carburettor.
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